i look at virginia, 7:00 p.m., and florida. if you believe mitt romney is narrowly ahead in both of those states, how quickly do we call them? does he win virginia by two or three points, florida by two or three points? if that's the case, it's likely we're close to calling those states by 9:00. now, look at ohio. a poll closing at 7:30. if the president has a three, four, five-point lead like these polls show, that's a state we'll be calling a lot earlier. but then i say keep an eye on pennsylvania. if we haven't called it by 9:00, if we're still in a too close to call mode, lester, that tells you maybe romney's having a pretty good night. >> and as we watch these swing states come together here, each candidate really has a legitimate path to victory, correct? >> they do. and i wanted the show you sort of what i would call the easiest paths, if you will, for the two of them. for the president, it's pretty simple. if you look at his campaign schedule, it shows you they believe it's simple. ohio three times. and he goes to wisco